May 10, 1987

...have you ever heard the term "bailing out?"

Corky: [speaking to Chris] Write about that it's a place where things become really clear, and write it in such a way where we can continue to publish the article in different papers and stuff in southern California. That there is a special chair inside the pyramid that's a portal to the forces. You know what I'm talking about Chris? You know how the chair works. How's that sound? And we'll get Lenny to get it in twenty different publications that they publish around the country, meditation magazines, all over the world. So it's got to be a pretty good article. It doesn't have to be real long, maybe 500 words or something like that. How does that sound as an idea Chris?

Chris: Sure.

Corky: Great. That way you don't have to screw up your school work or do anything like that with it. Work it in during the next few months. I think when you start writing on it, it will come to you.

Well, okay changing topic completely. Describe what you did this morning when you got out of bed, and how you got here, just sort of go through the details.

Chris: Me?

Corky: Well anybody could do it, I'm just asking you. Did the alarm go off?

Chris: Yes. The radio played, and I decided I had 15 minutes and went back to bed.

Corky: Right. Then what?

Chris: Then it happened again. I don't know, I just got up.

Corky: You put your feet out on the floor? And then you stood up?

Chris: Kind of just laying there stationary trying to get myself together. It usually takes me awhile, went into the bathroom, turned on the faucet, washed my hands and my face.

Corky: Sounds reasonable to me.

Chris: Used some mouthwash.

Corky: Sounds normal to me. Did you take a shower?

Chris: I don't do that in the mornings.

Corky: Okay. Had some coffee? Did you get anything to eat? Okay, then you jumped in your car? You put on some clothes? Went out and got in your car? Turned the key on? Backed up? Headed this way, pulled up out front?

Chris: Yeah.

Corky: Turned the engine off, opened the door, put your feet on the ground and walked in? Went into the building, came in here and now here we are. That's how Chris got right to this point, right?

Chris: Yes.

Corky: Was there a whole chain of events from the time the alarm went off until right now?

Chris: Yes.

Corky: They all sort of, one lead to the next, right? It's one chain of events that got you to this very point right now, your physical body here in this room, right?

Chris: Right.

Corky: What's that called? It is cause and effect. It is karma. They are the same thing. You did all those little things. Do you think that you have a particular way of holding your toothbrush? I mean you don't hold it between your two middle fingers, right? You sort of hold it like this?

Chris: Yeah.

Corky: And that's part of the way you brush your teeth, right? That is how you learned how to do it, right? And that is also cause and effect. So every little thing in life, up until now, got you right to here. You didn't all of the sudden get out of bed, and appear over here in the pyramid did you?

Chris: No. I'm pretty sure that didn't happen.

Corky: You went through a chain of events of cause and effect to get here. Is it pretty simple to look at Al, how Chris got here?

Al: It's pretty elementary.

Corky: It's not too complicated in other words, right?

Al: Well you've got to do something, unless you can materialize wherever you want to, yeah.

Corky: Right. Most everybody that I know does. I haven't seen anybody lately or heard of anybody who doesn't do that. I mean to get somewhere from point A to point B, they go through a series of events that gets them through that chain of events to this position right here. That's called cause and effect. It's also called karma.

Al: I wouldn't say getting a cup of coffee is karma.

Corky: Yes it is. Explain it Chris.

Chris: It is because that's part of my habit pattern.

Corky: Did you by chance have a want for the coffee?

Chris: It was because of my desire.

Corky: You didn't dislike coffee this morning. I mean you liked it better than disliking it, so you got some. And it was fine, right? There is nothing wrong with having coffee.

Chris: I don't know if it's such a great habit, but it is part of cause and effect.

Corky: Yes. It's part of cause and effect. And it was built up over a period of time, right? Of karma? Because in the past you tasted coffee, and there was something in there that said you might want it again. Did you add sugar in it?

Chris: Honey.

Corky: Because you like it sweet, right?

Chris: Yes.

Corky: A little milk? You like that better than black coffee, right?

Chris: No, because I'm not supposed to have a lot of protein or calcium, which is also part of cause and effect; my history.

Corky: Right. Well, let's look at a single day for example. Let's just say that you get up one day, and you go through a whole day, and you go to sleep at night, and you wake up the next day, and that's a complete cycle, okay? That's a complete cycle; it goes all the way around. When you wake up the next day, Chris, it's a new day, right?

Chris: Yeah.

Corky: But by any chance is there anything carried over from the previous day to the next day? Do you change bodies in the middle of the night, and get a new one every day? You wake up the next day usually in the same body, right? Do you by any chance trade teeth? Still got the same teeth? How about whether you wear glasses or not? Do you wake up one morning and you don't need glasses, and then the next day you do, and the next day you don't need them? Or is there a consistency over everything?

Chris: It's a carry over.

Corky: It's a carry over. Do you wake up one day and forget your whole life that's ever happened, or do you usually carry some memory with you?

Chris: Memory. It is there.

Corky: So there is a pattern carried on, from one complete cycle to the next complete cycle. You begin one cycle, and you go to the next cycle. There is a complete pattern that goes on. And like you say, you wake up one morning, and you want coffee, because the previous day you wanted it. Now, if you were going to begin to not want coffee in the morning, what would you have to do? You'd have to somehow change the pattern. So that maybe every morning you want less coffee, and you gradually decrease it, and gradually decrease it, and put your attention towards dissolving the desire for coffee. And maybe after a period of a couple of years you would stop drinking coffee. After 700 cycles or something like that.

I can't necessarily prove all the laws right here, but you know that one saying, "As above, so below?" That even in a spiritual state it manifests itself in life. Let's try to look at a larger picture. Let's just say that there is a spiritual life that goes on, and these manifestations within the body are exactly like days, they are cycles to a body. You know how a body goes to sleep at night and wakes up the next day and it's a complete cycle, it stays there during the day and the night? Well, the spiritual life has a body that goes through a spiritual day, which is a life. And the body goes to sleep, and the spiritual spirit still stays there, and just creates a new body, which is like a new day. So as above, so below. It's a continual thing. The spirit stays there. Looking at this law we've been discussing, would by any chance anything carry on in your spiritual life from one incarnation to another, Chris?

Chris: I'm not sure I understand. Could you do the analogy again?

Corky: Okay. The spirit is similar, but it is a larger picture frame. The spirit continues on, but has a lot of lifetimes, which are like days.

Chris: That it comes down into?

Corky: Just like days. Like you are having right now, okay? And the days we have are cycles, just like hours. We go through little cycles every hour in life, right? And then the larger thing is the day, and then the picture gets larger to the spirit as a whole lifetime. But the spirit is the continual thing, as it goes on through cycles.

Chris: And a lifetime is like a passing minute or something?

Corky: Or like the passing of a day to the spirit. It gets a body, goes through a lifetime, and then it picks up another body. And using those same things that have been happening totally throughout nature, and keeping the laws the same, would the spirit carry anything over? Or would it be a new spirit, completely different each time?

Chris: It would carry something over.

Corky: It would carry some propensities over. Maybe it has a life looking for particular things like coffee, or alcohol, born from one lifetime into another lifetime, with a life looking for alcohol or something like that.

Al: Until the cycles of life start to have less and less effect.

Corky: Well you figure, how many days are there in a lifetime?

Al: How many days in a lifetime? Depends on how long you live.

Corky: About how many days are in roughly 70 years? About 25,000 days. So you might say that you have 25,000 incarnations, comparably.

Al: If you used a day as an incarnation?

Corky: If you compared the spirit with the body, the different levels. 25,000 incarnations and the kind of change you make in a regular lifetime, it might take 20,000 incarnations to make a change. Now, usually, like we said before, when you go to sleep at night and you wake up the next morning with a similar life, you don't make real dramatic changes over night. You usually wake up with the same consciousness that you went to bed with. There is not that much drama going on. You don't go to bed as Chris the student and wake up as Albert Einstein. Do you usually? That's not normal is it? That isn't normal to have that take place. Because of this chain of events again, of cause and effect. When you get up, and you go through all those little things that got you to this point. That's called karma.

There is another word called dharma. And what that is, is dharma is your destiny in a particular lifetime because of your previous karma. It's sort of like, you can look down to this particular point, and you could say, "well Chris brushed his teeth, he stood up, he drank coffee, got in his car, came over here, sat down, he's talking, he's here," his dharma is to participate in this class today.

Now people have lifetime dharmas, and that is called their destiny in a lifetime. But what usually happens to most people is that they are in a battle with existence, with themselves. And so they have a difficult time in dealing with their own destiny and their own dharma. So they are in a fight with it. Does that ever happen to you Chris? Explain it to me. How does that all work?

Chris: Well, I don't know if I'm in a place or a position to explain it. I understand the battle, I guess it's just where you decide, where you believe at various points that circumstances and events and situations in life should be different.

Corky: Have you ever been in class and felt that you shouldn't be here? That you'd rather be some other place?

Chris: In this class? In many classes I've had that feeling. In this class I've had that feeling.

Corky: Right. But why are you here? You came here. It's the cause and effect right? I mean, you brushed your teeth, you got in your car, you turned your engine on, you walked over and walked in the building right?

Chris: Yeah.

Corky: But you are sitting here after you got yourself here, saying "No, this shouldn't be! I don't deserve to be in this class," right?

Chris: I don't feel that way right now.

Corky: I know you don't. I'm speaking generally.

Chris: Sometimes I see that, but that's rarely my reason. But people would have various reasons for why they felt they didn't belong somewhere.

Corky: Have you ever been in a place and you felt that you shouldn't have been there, but you were there?

Chris: Yeah.

Corky: How did you get there?

Chris: I put myself there.

Corky: But you weren't comfortable with it, right? For some reason? It doesn't make any difference the reason. I'm just talking about a philosophical thing here. But the cause and effect thing took you there, right? And you took yourself there, right?

Chris: Yeah.

Corky: But all the sudden you've got this thing on that says, "Hey! This isn't fair! Here I am sitting in here in this class, and Burt Reynolds is on a water ski boat down in Florida with Dolly Parton and Lonnie Anderson and five chauffeurs waiting for him. Now what's the deal here? What am I doing in class, and Burt Reynolds is down there doing that?" And so it's all of the sudden not fair, and it is irritating, okay? When I say, "What am I doing here?," I'm refusing to see what?

Chris: Cause and effect?

Corky: And who got me here? Did Burt Reynolds put me here? Didn't I drink the coffee, brush my teeth, put my pants on, get in the car and turn the key, walk through the door and sit down? Is that called cause and effect? Did I do it? Did I bring myself to this point in life? When you look at it in a clear manner like this, isn't it pretty stupid to ignore reality, and not face up to where I brought myself? Wouldn't you say Al? I mean it's pretty ridiculous isn't it?

Al: Yeah. Sure. It seems pretty simple and laid out, with those examples and analogy.

Corky: You've heard the word dharma before haven't you?

Al: Yeah I've heard it. But I tend to forget what it means because of some of my vocabulary.

Corky: It is the same thing as destiny. It means destiny in life.

Al: I've read it in eastern philosophy books. Any eastern book has that word in it.

Carnie: It means duty too.

Corky: It also means that you've got a duty. And you've got a destiny in life to do, and it's a cause and effect event chain.

Al: In integrating what it means, doesn't it also mean that it is the inevitability of the chain of events that is going to take place?

Corky: Right! Exactly. That is it exactly! Now why is the chain of events going to take place?

Al: Well it goes back to the previous and the previous.

Corky: Right. And you are in the chain.

Al: Well it goes back to when the thing came out of the assembly line right?

Corky: Exactly, and so you're riding the chain right? So how could it get comfortable, Chris? Is it more comfortable sitting here moaning and groaning over why Burt Reynolds has a ski boat with Dolly Parton and Lonnie Anderson down in Jupiter Ranch, and then the Ferrari and the home in Hollywood and a couple other places around the world? That he has his own plane that flies him around, he does whatever he wants to do whenever he wants to do it, and stuff like that. What am I doing when I'm sitting here saying that I'm pissed at Burt Reynolds for him having that, and me being stuck here in the pyramid in this class? Am I blaming my existence on Burt Reynolds?

Chris: Yeah, I guess so. Or you are blaming something other than yourself for being where you are.

Corky: For your state of being right? So I'm losing it someplace there right? I'm losing contact with reality.

Chris: When you look at the whole picture, yeah.

Corky: What did Rajneesh say about the general population? That they're all schizophrenic, right Jim?

Jim: Yes.

Corky: They are. That they can't accept reality, so they go crazy, right? Generally, they are all crazy, so they space out, and blame something or somebody else for their situation, right? And they refuse to accept their dharma, and see exactly what it is? They hide from it. Let me give you an example here, when I was talking to Lenny in California, we went over this motorcycle story again. Lenny was driving down the freeway on Al's motorcycle, and he was driving fairly fast.

Al: The truck driver said he passed him, and the truck was going 70.

Corky: Okay, did Lenny get on the motorcycle in the beginning? Or did somebody make him get on there? Nobody made him get on there right?

Al: Yeah, he swung his leg over.

Corky: And did he start the motorcycle?

Al: Yeah.

Corky: Did he put it in gear? Did he turn the throttle?

Al: As far as it would go! Yeah.

Corky: Did he aim the motorcycle in a particular direction and go down the street? Did he do it because he didn't want to? Why was he doing it if not because he wanted to, right? Then, he got to a point in this thing that he was doing, that Lenny chose to do, when all of the sudden it became the motorcycle's fault. Did you ever hear him tell the story? Well all the sudden "the motorcycle went out of control," not Lenny.

Al: That's what he told me.

Corky: Well he's still telling the same story. Let's look at the story real clearly here. Terry, what would you say to me if I went out here in front, and got in Al's car, and I headed down the freeway, and I put it in 5th gear and hit 120mph and it had an overdrive. It's not meant to go that fast, but I put some nitroglycerine in the fuel tank, and some alcohol, and fueled it up pretty good so it would get up and go, and I threw the overdrive in there so I could keep going, and I was hitting 200 miles per hour in Al's Datsun going down the freeway. And all of the sudden it got a vibration in it because there are standing vibrations in things when they hit certain speeds that they get, and they blow apart. And all of the sudden the front bolts start unscrewing from the lug nuts, and they fly off and the tires fly out every which way, and I have hit such a speed that the wind is now holding the front end up, okay? But I don't have any front tires, and it just flies right off of the freeway off of a cliff and crashes. And then when I got back I said to you, "Man, the car lost control!" What would you think about me?

Terry: That you're not in the proper observation point.

Corky: The car did lose control didn't it?

Terry: Oh yeah, but you are stuck in your observation point.

Corky: And I'm the one that made it lose control. I'm the one that chose to take it to that point until it did lose control. That's called dharma, or karma, or cause and effect. But sometimes it's difficult for me to deal with cause and effect, and where I've taken my place in it. And have you ever heard the term "bailing out?" What's that mean?

Terry: To me it means instead of going down a straight hall, it means stopping and taking a side door, a side trip at 90 degrees that doesn't do any good.

Corky: Did Lenny ever use the term "bailing out" on the motorcycle? How did he tell the story? Have you ever heard him tell the story about bailing out? He uses the word bailing out. I've heard this story a lot of times now from Lenny, every time we go down to California he talks about it.

Al: I only heard it the initial day it happened.

Corky: Every time he tells the story he says, "the motorcycle went out of control and I bailed." The motorcycle did it, and I bailed out. He bailed out off of this motorcycle that went out of control. And as he bailed out, it wiped out the motorcycle, there's a lot of damage to the motorcycle and everything, and Lenny got scratched up. But the event that he put himself into he couldn't deal with, and so he bailed out at that point. Lenny has this way; he just got in a car accident. The way he describes the car accident changes every time, until you finally get down to the final story in the end. It was that he turned between two rows of cars that were stopped for him, and this lady snuck up and hit him as he pulled out, and that's how he got into his car accident and totaled his car. Well it turns out that there weren't any cars stopped in the next story, and there weren't any cars coming the other way except for the lady. The way Lenny talks is he says, "Well I saw the car coming and I bailed out." Like he just let go of the wheel, held his head, and then she hit him. He bailed out. Does everybody know what I'm talking about? Does that make sense how Lenny bailed out in the motorcycle accident and the car accident?

Al: Seems like he had a choice in both instances. If he could decide to bail out he could have decided to...

Corky: Not bail out, right? Exactly. He had a job when he got hit by the car, and he still had the job afterwards, but he decided two weeks ago not to go to the job because the boss, when he wasn't at the job, had called up one of his clients and talked to him about a job they were running, and got involved with his client. So pretend like I'm Lenny for a second: "So the boss got the thing all screwed up, and the wrong color got printed on the job, and the client was mad, and so I bailed out of that job! I didn't go back there anymore and I went and got me a new one, and I haven't called him since!" Wasn't that a funny story Jim? It is, isn't it? Explain that concept.

Jim: Well, I used to do that a lot.

Corky: You don't do that on jobs anymore?

Jim: No. Before, wouldn't follow the rules, wanted to do it my way.

Corky: Talk about it for a few minutes, gives some details about what's going on, and how that all happens. What builds up to it? Is there any stress in it?

Jim: There's a lot of stress in it.

Corky: Okay. So all of the sudden you got a bunch of stress, right? And what's it feel like?

Jim: Feels like you are getting ready to pop.

Corky: Okay.

Jim: The only way out is to bail out. Bail out and take another road.

Corky: But what's the problem with the bailing out? You've got to start right over where you left off, don't you? You go right back to where you were, right?

Jim: Yeah, you do. It takes awhile to figure that out. You can only bail out so many times, until...

Corky: Well you could do it for several lifetimes. You know you could bail out for 28,000 lifetimes or something like that. It's called suicide too. That's bailing out on a lifetime. When people commit suicide, they build up a bunch of stress and everything, and they bail out by committing suicide. And then what happens when they wake up in their next lifetime, Chris? They're right back where they left off?

Chris: I guess.

Corky: Yeah, they are right where they left off. And so how did they get to their next lifetime? They left their old one right? You have to leave your old one to get the new one. It's like stepping out of the car and going into the building, and going out of the building back into the car. It's a chain of events from one lifetime to the next lifetime. Is it from one job to the next job? Is that what Lenny does? He bails out of one and goes to the next one? He's right back where he left off, right? Working on the same situation where he gets to the point where there is a lot of stress, and he bails out? But what happens if you hang in there?

Jim: Then you can override the stress.

Corky: Do you build something by hanging in there? What do you build? You build your will. Very interesting. You build inner strength right? You feel stronger now that you've been with your job all this period of time versus what you did before? It's sort of an interesting situation isn't it? You've bailed out of a sheet metal job didn't you? Don't you feel good now about not bailing out of this job? You feel completely different than you used to about yourself, right?

Jim: Oh yeah.

Corky: You feel like you are more of a whole person? Everybody bails out of some kind of situation or another. For example, they get in a fight with their girlfriend or something and so they bail out. Have you ever done that Chris? Lenny just jumps out of the window of a car. Going down the freeway you know, sees something coming the other way, and he rolls down the window and jumps out and lets the car crash.

Al: He puts his life on the line.

Corky: Well you know, everybody puts their life on there, it's the same thing. They're all the same thing. A life is no big deal. I mean a body and stuff like that is what I'm saying. Can you see what, how it's the same thing, Jim? How bailing out of a job is like bailing out of a life, and you start off at the same place in your next one.

Jim: It's a little more dramatic to change lives than to change jobs.

Corky: Well you think it is, until you do it. It seems like a big deal you know? But all of the sudden you're a little baby, and you gotta grow up and everything again, you get a body and go through all those kinds of things. It's like kids, you know? If kids don't like the game that's being played, they say "I'm not playing that game anymore," and the rest of the kids go off and play. I've done that when I was a kid. Have you ever done that Chris?

Chris: Oh yeah.

Corky: Did anybody see Janie Fry bail out of here? Have you ever seen anybody bail out of here, Jim? This is a good place to bail out of. I mean, it's a real easy place to bail out of. This place ever cause you any stress Terry?

Terry: Oh yeah.

Corky: I think it should have. Was it a year ago when you went to work at Mount Olympus? It was two and a half years ago? God, time goes fast! Jesus. We're getting old. That was a stressful time wasn't it? Didn't you feel like bailing out of here then?

Terry: No, I don't think that was a good time to bail out. Because I felt like I needed to spend more time here.

Corky: To hold it together? But there have been some times where you felt like bailing out?

Terry: I think everybody has.

Corky: How about you Donna? Have you had one of those? Where it gets stressful? Where does the stress come from?

Donna: Oh yeah, it comes from my own conflict inside.

Corky: Right. And seeing something you don't want to see? Being pressed up against something that you probably should deal with? And work your way through? But instead you bail out? You haven't bailed out of not coming. You've been pretty good about that because we've pressed you hard.

Donna: Yeah.

Corky: We've pressed you, haven't we Chris? You got pissed boy! Real pissed. Did you feel like bailing out? But you hung in? Do you feel stronger now because of it?

Chris: Yeah, I think I deal with stress better.

Corky: Isn't that great? If you can hold on, it's sort of like, have you ever been on one of those things with the rings at the end of chains that would swing around in circles when you were a kid, and it turns in the center, and you hold on until it gets going so fast it throws your ass off? Your feet are horizontal! You're holding on for everything you've got! You know how it gets faster and faster and faster, until your finger tips are just barely on there, and finally you let go and then you fly through the air. And the harder you hold on, the stronger your arms get, and maybe it goes so fast that a lot of times it does throw you off, but you are stronger for having tried to hold on. And then you get right back on and you go around again. And you get stronger and stronger the next day. And you get back on there and you go around and you get stronger.

And everybody goes through stages like that. Where Rajneesh says most everybody on the planet is schizophrenic, and over a period of evolution, of thousands of lifetimes of incarnations, you get stronger by holding on with your will. And not bailing out. Holding on to the pressure that you would encounter here, holding on to the pressure that you encounter in a lifetime. Dealing with those things that confront you, and cause you an immense amount of stress.

It's true, isn't it Chris? It's funny, and it's a joke isn't it?

Chris: It is true. There are things that can cause you an immense amount of stress, it's true.

Corky: And don't you think those are the things you need to deal with the most?

Chris: Probably.

Corky: That's what causes the stress, or you wouldn't need to be dealing with them. Doesn't cause me any stress if Burt Reynolds is sailing down in Florida with Lonnie Anderson and Dolly Parton on a ski boat fishing for alligators, does it bother you?

Chris: Not really.

Corky: Does it bother you Terry? How about you Al?

Al: It doesn't bother me that he's doing that.

Corky: Does it bother anybody that they are in the situation in their life, and they are not in somebody else's situation?

Chris: Occasionally. I can fall into that. I have fallen into that.

Corky: Okay. That's very honest. Describe that feeling, sort of what that's all about. Tell us sort of what that thing is.

Chris: It's bailing out is what it is. It's like I have no control. Saying I'm a victim, and why was I victimized? Why can't I be like that person?

Corky: Why can't I be like them? How come they have that and I don't? Remember the discussion we had on the sidewalk? What they've got is another problem that's different than yours, but you don't realize it because you see it from your perspective. Have you ever been mad about someone who has five good looking girls under their arm, a brand new car, and lots of money?

Chris: Sure. Sure.

Corky: Does it bother you sometimes? Has it ever bothered you?

Chris: It depends on the state you are in. But I've been in a state where it has bothered me.

Corky: Has it ever bothered you, Al?

Al: It's made me curious as hell as to how it happens, but doesn't really get me stressed over it. I just say, how is that possible?

Corky: Has anybody ever seen Al get stressed over a situation like that? Have you, Donna?

Donna: Yeah. I think he would like to have money flowing in and stuff.

Corky: Have you ever seen him get stressed a little bit over something like that, Jim?

Jim: Yes.

Corky: It is normal isn't it? That's where most people are at right? Have you ever seen him, Carnie, get stressed over that? How about you, Terry?

Al: Over a bunch of women?

Corky: No, no, no. Not necessarily just over the women, but just the general philosophy. Don't worry about the specifics. We're just generally speaking about a situation like that.

Al: Oh yeah, I get stressed over the philosophy of that, sure.

Corky: How did you get in the building?

Al: I walked in. But I know that I did that.

Corky: I know. Wait a second, I agree with you. All I'm doing is reinforcing the philosophy here. How did you get in the position you are in, in your life?

Al: Same way I got in the building, except I don't know how I got in that. There is no awareness of all the past chain of events.

Corky: Okay Jim, going back to this job and everything, Al's saying--which I'm agreeing with you Al, I'm not arguing with you. I'm agreeing with what you are saying--Al's saying he can't remember how he got himself in the position he got himself into in life. Isn't that what he's saying? Tell him how he got there.

Jim: He walked in.

Corky: You walked in Al.

Al: Yeah. I think that's kind of obvious, but there is no memory of the details.

Corky: Why isn't there a memory of the details, Jim? He doesn't want to remember them, does he?

Jim: But it's there.

Al: Oh yeah, I'm sure it is. But I have no recollection of it.

Corky: Now, it's okay to feel comfortable right now talking about this isn't it? It's okay to talk about this?

Al: Is it okay to talk about it? Oh yeah! Hey, you've talked about my pecker! You can talk about anything!!

Corky: Right! Okay, Chris, looking at the times you've been frustrated in life, you seem like you've got a pretty clear thing going on right now in the last month or so. Maybe you've had a couple ups and downs.

Chris: I think I've shaved off the extremes just a little bit.

Corky: Right. That's good to say it that way. It's safe, and it's best to be safe than sorry. It is a step. It's a step. It's grabbing the key to start the car. It's just part of what Al's talking about; I can't remember how I got here. Does that make sense at all? You set yourself up by saying "I'm not affected by lightening." And then automatically you are closer to lightening. Do you see what I'm saying? Because you brought lightening onto the stage. I'm affected by lightening! I've seen those guys on TV after it struck them, and they look like they got put in a furnace or something.

Al: I don't think I would ever tell nature that you're not affected by lightening!

Corky: Okay. Stop right there. Do you think Al has ever said that Al is not affected by nature? He just said it a second ago, didn't he Jim? He said he can't remember how he got there.

Al: Consciously I don't have the memory.

Corky: What's he saying? I don't have a consciousness?

Jim: Doesn't want to look at it.

Corky: He doesn't want a consciousness. He doesn't want to realize how he got where he got, or where he is at. Is that what he's saying Terry? Isn't that what he's saying Chris? Just like you were being very conscious about the way you described, how Chris described about his stress once in awhile, because it had made him a believer, right? And you have respect for it?

Chris: Yes.

Corky: Because you became conscious of it, and so you start respecting it. Because when you don't respect it, it's like a snake that raises its ugly head and bites the living shit out of you. Al's talking about his pecker. It grabs a hold of your pecker and drags you around the block, and you've got your feet splayed out dragging along screaming "Not so hard, not so hard!!" And you are sunburned at the same time. All over your whole body is sunburned. And the wind blowing on you just pains you, you've got such a bad sunburn, and the snake is dragging you around the block by your pecker. So next time the snake visits the front door you say, "Hi there!" I mean, you treat it with great respect, right? Because it could show right back up again! Is that sort of what happens, Jim? You gain respect for nature and life?

Jim: Yeah, you get drug around enough that you decide not to be drug around.

Corky: Yeah.

Al: I have a question and that is, if everything that is, is all under the law of cause and effect, then it was all supposed to happen that way anyway.

Corky: Very good time to bring this up! That's correct. That's very correct. Although does that give Al the excuse to bail out, Jim?

Jim: No.

Corky: Chris, does it give you an excuse to bail out ever?

Chris: It's all preordained.

Corky: I know it is. But I'm talking about does it give you an excuse not to brush your teeth if it's preordained?

Chris: No. In my opinion, I feel that even though that is true, I think you should pretend as though you are responsible for every second.

Corky: But wait a second, let's just say that it's all preordained, and every word I am saying here is preordained, and the amount of it that everybody takes into their consciousness, and walks differently because of the words, is all preordained.

Al: Because that's another cause.

Corky: Right, that's another cause. And so listen very carefully to the causes, and make them stronger and stronger is what I'm saying. Does that make sense? Listen to the causes.

Al: But you can only do that if the causes on your part are in the chain of events, and set to take place at the same time.

Corky: Exactly, exactly. And so continue to allow to be steered in a more whole manner, instead of "because it's supposed to be that way," instead of allowing it to be steered in a negative manner which will allow us to continue to bail out. We're on the boat. I've got the rudder today. And we're going to steer the ship into a non-bailing-out direction. And I'm not going to let Al have the rudder, saying, "well it's under cause and effect so we'll take the bailout trip to the left." I'm going to hold on to the rudder. And then Al's going to say, "well it was under cause and effect that you should have had the rudder."

Al: That's when things start getting so confusing, that they just don't make sense anymore in my consciousness.

Corky: There is no confusion. There is no confusion.

Al: See, when you're supposed to bail out that's when you were supposed to. And if you weren't, then you wouldn't have.

Corky: That was yesterday. Today is a new day. And today you're not supposed to.

Al: Okay, well I'm not right now.

Corky: And from now on you're not supposed to.

Al: Well I don't know that until the time comes!

Corky: Yes you do.

Al: How do I know that?

Corky: You know it right now from now on. Wait a second, wait a second. Remember Jim when you reached this point of you weren't supposed to bail out anymore? We didn't go over it as directly as this did we? It was just sort of a subtle thing. But you reached a point being here at Summum that you couldn't bail out anymore.

Jim: Right.

Corky: That you had to decide. You decided you couldn't bail out anymore, right?

Jim: I do slack off now and then, but I don't bail out.

Corky: Because you had to go right back and start over where you bailed out right? And it was probably a real subtle thing of the things that happened here, wouldn't you say? It kept on calling you and calling you, it'd call you at home, it'd call you at work. Real subtly, the forces would say, inside because of your experience with your meditation and Summum and everything, "Hey that's not cool. It's time to grow up and stop bailing out." Right? Because the game is not going your way you're not going to quit anymore. Because you picked up the jacks wrong and he won the last hand toss, but you'll stick in there until the odds turn in your favor, right? How in the hell are the odds ever going to turn in your favor if you always quit the game? They don't do they? You can't quit. They're bound to go in your favor sooner or later, right? But if you quit, can they go in your favor? They can't can they? You always quit when the other guy is winning. Right? I mean if you look at a game like that.

Al: Yeah.

Corky: Well that same law applies in life.

Al: I mean if it's 3/2 count in the bottom of the 9th and you won't swing at the next pitch, then you know...

Corky: And even if that game is over and you lose that game, do you quit the ball team Terry?

Terry: No.

Corky: What do you do? God there is some hockey team in Detroit that has not won a game since 1937. And they're going to be the world champions now. They just came back. They won some games, and their fans are lined up outside for miles and none of them can get tickets, they are sold out. And they sell for about $50 a seat. But they hadn't won a championship since 1937! That's a long time. Do you ever feel like that Al? You haven't won a championship for a long time?

Al: Yes.

Corky: Same story isn't it? It's the game of life. It's the game of incarnation. Now what's the best thing to do, quit and bail out, or hang in there in all situations?

Chris: Hang in there.

Corky: I mean if you are playing. If you've got a parachute and you're in a fighter plane that's going down, you bail out. That's logical. You see what I'm saying? You don't crash if you know it's going to crash and burn up. I'm not saying that. I'm talking about something that's really clear; I know we can distort it if we want to. Take an odd example, like if Donna was driving down the road and her car stalled on the railroad tracks and here comes Union Pacific. I mean, you'd open the door and you would bail out and let the train run over your car. That's only logical. I'm talking about a different situation here. It's a philosophical thing. Like Lenny on the motorcycle. It's a consciousness. The reason the motorcycle caused Lenny to crash is because he bailed out. The reason the boss screwed up the customer and Lenny bailed out of the job is because things weren't going the way he wanted them to at work. The way he thought they should go. I said, "Why don't you go back and sit down with the boss, and talk with him and say, 'Hey, I'm here to work for you. What do you want me to do and I'll do it. I'll keep my mouth shut, I won't say anything anymore. I would just like to do a good job. If you tell me to go out and glue pads in the back shop, that's what I'll do, and I won't harass the employees or the customers.'" But it was the boss's and the customer's fault that Lenny had to quit and not show up and just go get another job. And Ron said the guy kept on calling at the house asking what happened to Lenny and which planet did he go to, where did he go? And Lenny said it was the boss's and the customer's fault and he didn't want anything to do with it.

Carnie: Eventually that catches up with you, in Lenny's case at least.

Corky: Well Lenny will keep on getting jobs and getting jobs and bailing out of them. Lenny and I have been going over this and going over this, and he's seeing it clearer. It happens in life. Lenny bailed out on Bob. Bob said something to Lenny, and Lenny called the police. He couldn't hang in there. He didn't want to deal with the situation because of the stress. What's the stress like again, Jim? What does it do?

Jim: It's like a bubble getting ready to pop.

Corky: Now, can you take a pill for it?

Jim: Yeah.

Corky: And what does the pill do?

Jim: Makes it go away for awhile.

Corky: Then what happens? Then it comes back right? So there are pills to temporarily get rid of it? How do you get rid of it permanently? Let's take a break.