Suicide and Death - Part 2

December 21, 1986

...we need to build a communion with life and death.

So, I was watching a movie called War of the Worlds.And there is a part where everyone is at a dance, and the power goes out, and all their watches stop and everything. Okay? And here I am, and I'm watching the movie and the guy says, "Oh the powers gone out! It's out everywhere, and look, our watches are stopping!" And right after that, all of a sudden - Boom - the TV goes off. All of the lights are still on and everything, and I take the remote control and it's not working, and I go, "Jesus Christ the TV is broken! Right in the middle of the holidays and I've got to get it fixed." So I go over to the TV and push it and nothing happens. Then I unplug it, and I think well maybe there's something wrong with the plug, because we used to have a rabbit named Osiris and he'd eat on the cord a little bit. I look for any problems with the cord and there aren't any, so I plug it back in and it still won't turn on. So I push it again and it goes on. And I say, "Oh, all it must be is something overheating, and it's flipping off the circuit breaker inside and not coming on, and so I sit there for a few more minutes, and then they say in the movie, "Oh it's affecting all the power." And so the TV goes off again.

Al: Did James witness this?

Corky: No, not this part. And so then I just went into the bathroom to use the restroom, and while I'm gone I guess it came back on. And so I'm in the bathroom and I thought I heard somebody come in the back door, and so I go in and it's Jim sitting watching War of the Worlds, right? Did I tell you that the TV was doing weird things Jim?

James: I think you mentioned it, and then an alien came up out of the hole and slapped the thing, and boom.

Corky: The TV went off again. And so then Jim fiddled with it for a minute and it came back on and there hasn't been any problem since. Now that's not logical, is it? I mean, when something's broken then it's broken. It doesn't get well. It's like a rod in your engine; you know, it doesn't all of a sudden get well when it's broken. Anyway, it was a real weird little thing when we were watching that movie.

Anyway, we're talking about death and dying and suicide today. Where were we? We were saying that everybody contemplates suicide. And it's a very common thing in the society but nobody talks about it. And it's not spoken of because nobody wants to face the reality that everybody's talking about it, because maybe they are afraid that everyone will start doing it if you raise the issue, and say that everyone is talking about it.

Al: The insurance part, that whatever way you choose to do it you'll be insured some way so that the other side won't be so bad if you do it right. You know, like if you put a gun to your head it might be more intense on the other side.

Corky: Yeah all these little thoughts come up in the contemplation of suicide: what's going to happen on the other side, if there is another side? What your family on this side is going to say... will it make any difference because you've gone into oblivion? Well, I don't want to leave them in a bad way... and all these kinds of things. You ever thought of committing suicide Sue?

Su: No.

Corky: Ever? You ever thought about it at all, about not wanting to be alive?

Sue: I don't know if I ever thought about suicide. I might have.

Corky: Anyway, it's a real interesting question, in society when it's asked initially there is a real denial. "I don't do that, everybody else does it." It's like everybody else is the one that gets in the car accident, and I'm never the one that's going to do it. Have you noticed that Chris? That when you ask people, generally there is a lot of denial?

Chris: I ask about this one a lot.

Corky: But you know what I'm talking about. Generally everybody else does this but not me because I'm exempt from it.

Chris: Right, that they are special.

Corky: And it only happens to other people, it doesn't happen to me. And it's sort of a real interesting thing. It's that same thing that takes place in life about everybody's fear of death. Nobody wants to talk about death because it's going to happen to all those old guys and everybody else on the planet except me, and I'm never going to get there. And this is the thing that's going through the metaphysical field: "Well, I'm just going to trans..." What do they call it when they're going to take their body to another planet or another sphere of existence?

Ron: Transfigure or translation. They take their body with them. It gets so evolved that it goes on to the next dimension where they are ...

Corky: What's the probability of this Chris? I mean if we get back to probabilities. You know at the horse races, and there are two horses, one that ran at 23.5 seconds in this distance of a race, and they ran it 20 times in a row, and then another one ran it in 47 seconds, what's the probability that the one that ran it in 47 seconds is going to beat the one that just ran it the last 20 times in a row in 23 seconds? There's a probability you could figure out mathematically in there, but it's not very likely is it?

Chris: I'm not clear on what they're trying to do, are they going to save their body?

Corky: No they're going to transform it into, it's going to go to heaven with them and it's not going to have to have a funeral like everybody else.

Ron: It's going to be transfigured.

Corky: Like Christ was.

Chris: And they won't even find the body.

Corky: And they're going to resurrect it. They're going to take it with them. What's the probability Chris, have you seen any lately?

Chris: Not within the month.

Corky: So Ron, you've been in the schools and stuff, you know, where all the bodies go when people pass away. How many have disappeared off the planet?

Ron: Zero.

Corky: That you know of right? There could be some conspiracy going on with all these special people?

Ron: Anything is possible. I haven't seen any of them get out from around it. I mean they can't even pass walking-on-water 101 yet, so I don't know how they've managed to graduate class by doing that.

Corky: You know anybody Janet? There are some very spiritual people that have come to the hospital on life flight, haven't there?

Janet: Yeah, we had Jesus once.

Corky: Right, he claimed he was Jesus right? Did he die?

Janet: No, and I've never seen anyone...

Corky: Oh you've never seen anybody transfigure their body out of the hospital room and go to heaven? They usually take them to the morgue first right? And then over to the medical examiner, and then over to the funeral home, and then up to Wasatch Lawn. That's the probability.

Janet: Why do these people want to do that? Transfigure their bodies?

Corky: They don't want to face death. It is a lie that they are telling themselves to try to avoid a position in relativity and reality. Wouldn't you say that Ron?

Ron: Yeah, well they think the whole thing is cold, death and dying. The way that the psychologists look at it and the psychiatrists look at it, is that people are always going to have a hard time with it, but more and more now we are getting what is called the nuclear family. And what happens, instead of a person dying at home, getting sick and having the family taking care of them, and everybody's around helping - what happened is they actually got to see it, they saw death - so what happens now is the ambulance comes and whisks you away, and you don't get to confront the issue. You know, you go somewhere else and die.

Corky: Why are they doing that? Because people don't want to confront the issue and they'll pay to avoid it. Right? Is that what you see as a nurse, Janet?

Janet: That's why the hospice is so popular; because they don't have to die in the home. They are taken care of by people that are trained and specialists in that.

Ron: They have an in house hospice too; where they can help people die in their homes.

Corky: But the family doesn't want to deal with it do they?

Janet: No, the family doesn't have to.

Al: God forbid you should die here! Go over there and die so we don't have to see it.

Corky: Now that was a real interesting statement Al just made. Say that again.

Al: God forbid you should die at home! Go to the hospital and die so we don't have to deal with it.

Corky: What do you think Mary, about that? Do you see that in our society?

Mary: Yeah. My mother was with her mother watching her die and helping her through the process, and I don't know that I would have the strength to do that. I would rather help when my mother gets to that point, and yet I can't imagine being with somebody that I love when they are dying.

Corky: But wait a second, let's stop here for a second. This is normal, what you're saying is normal. You're a perfectly normal person. I mean you've got the regular main stream consciousness here. But my problem with the whole thing is who in the world is going to pawn their loved one off on to someone who doesn't give a shit about them? Does it hurt you within your heart when someone drops dead in the hospital Janet? You don't know them personally do you? I mean you may have a feeling when the person died...

Janet: I grieve more when I see the family come in and have to go through it.

Corky: Ok. What if it was your dad dying there in the hospital instead of the guy dying there?

Janet: Oh, it would affect me totally differently. I'd be very upset and... you know, I would miss him, that sort of thing.

Al: But we're taught that we're not supposed to see anybody die.

Corky: No wait a second! It's not that we're not supposed to, we don't want to, because it brings the reality of our own death to us. If my dad can die and my mother can die, then I have to. If they go, they are the ones that are closest. Those are the ones that I know. Now, these other guys are just pretending. The rest of the world is pretending. But my dad did it! Or my brother did it! Or my sister did it! Or my mother did it! Some relative did it. And so what is really being said here by the human species in this evolutionary process to the point that we are is: we are living shit scared of dying! Is that what is being said Janet? Isn't that the bottom line?

Janet: Yes, that is pretty much what is going on.

Corky: And so what Summum says, and from the very beginning has been saying, is we need to build a communion with life and death. The communion is that we join the two together, with the sun coming up, and as it's going down as Isis, and unveil Isis. Take the veil off Isis. Remove the secrecy, the mystery of death. Because it is going to come up again the next day. Once a person can take away the mystery, or unveil Isis, they have reached a level of evolution or consciousness that they become the continuum, rather than the particle within existence. And everybody is doing the opposite. And this is a small handful of people to sell the message to the world, but I don't know anybody else who is really doing that. They are talking a little bit about it in school, but they are not saying there is anything on the other side. Are they Ron?

Ron: They are trying to get the moment over with. They are trying to get the family through the loss of a loved one, and that it is an inevitable thing.

Corky: What are they doing for the individual themselves, about their own death? They are avoiding it.

Ron: They don't really know what to do. The guy that is the head of the hospice in Orange County, a Lutheran pastor, he came in and talked to us, his whole philosophy is that we try to get the family and the person that is dying to a place where they feel okay with going, but they can't do anything religious for them, or they can't give them a place to go because they have to feel their own way. Because they can't change their philosophy and the philosophy of the family. They can't preach religion.

Corky: So, what's happening is they are saying this is the ambulance that comes in at the last minute.

Ron: This is the ambulance. We're here to help you look at the reality.

Corky: So, there is no preventative medicine?

Ron: There is no guidance for the soul that is dying. When the person dies, they are just going to be out there. And the family gets the experience of saying, "Well, that's okay cause we're all just going to die and dying is inevitable." But they don't have an "okay" about it. Because when the person dies there is not a facility to help the dead person. So they know when they die that everyone is going to help them get adjusted to the reality of the situation, but they still don't know where the hell they are going. They are just going.

Corky: Going, going, gone.

Ron: You know, it's like, I'm going to sleep but I don't know if I'm going to wake up. It's the same story. Everybody is around to help them go to sleep, but they are not in a state to know that there is anything going on after that.

Corky: Okay. This is a real good issue that we are going to talk about more next weekend, because we're going to have a lot more time to talk about it then. And I wanted to get it generated in everybody's minds so we could continue on with this thing. Okay Chris, let's go on to the rest of the discussion, about the cell in the body.

Chris: The individual cell.

Corky: It's really simple. Everybody wants to make this thing really complicated, but let me explain it to you real simply and you guys can take it and think about this thing from here. Everything in nature is similar to everything else. If you will just relax for a second and see the simplicity in Creation, everything that is going on, it is unbelievable. It is not complicated at all. Everything came from a cause, and you can deliberate in your mind what that cause is, and it is an expression of that cause. But if we look to science, science gives us a very good understanding that molecules break off and join to create similar molecules to themselves. They join together and harmonize together to make elements. Okay? And these elements get together, and using the human body as an example, and it is explained in all the philosophical scriptures throughout history, and the religious scripture, that the body is a manifestation of the cosmos. It is the exact same thing. What we have is a central consciousness which you could say is somewhere in the heart or the brain or something like that, and it tells the body what to do, and each one of the cells is a little separate unit, supposedly in harmony working with this body.

But the way that this whole thing comes about, we take a sperm cell and we take an egg and we join them together, and it makes one cell. One cell. And they have 48 chromosomes, right? 24 and 24 from each half, right? So there are 48 chromosomes in there, and there is one cell that starts off there, isn't there? There are not two, there is one. What does that cell do Ron?

Ron: It goes through a state of mitosis, and evolves into two cells.

Corky: Okay, but they started out as one cell. It's the exact same way the goddamn cosmos started out. Everything started out as one little thing. And it divided. It is so simple! It's unbelievable. And it had the whole message within it. So, now there are two cells, and both of them have the whole message. And they keep on dividing and dividing, and dividing. And all of the sudden, because of the whole message in there, the next cell says, "Well, I'm going to become skin cells." So it starts making a whole bunch of skin cells. And then the whole message makes a whole bunch of liver cells, a whole bunch of heart cells, a lot of eyes, retina, a lot of kidneys, a lot of bone cells, and there are thousands, upon tens of thousands of different kinds of cells that come out of this one cell. And the whole message is in the one cell! And within you, you are a unit off of the original Creation, and the whole message is within you. The problem is you got caught up in being a skin cell. And you are trying so hard to become a skin cell that you forgot the whole message is in there. But the whole thing is there. What the process is, then, is to awaken the whole message inside of there. Hello! Wake up! And bring it back to life, and as you do that, you stop becoming a skin cell and you become all of the cells, and you stop worrying about all of the importance of a skin cell or a human being. You lose yourself, and you find yourself. Isn't that story simple? When you stop trying to become a skin cell or the human being, and you discover the wholeness of yourself inside, and you discover you are the whole thing. Now, it is not an easy process. It takes time. That is what we are in. It is not a hard process either. It's a medium process. Right down the middle. It's not hard and it's not easy, it's medium.

Takes time, but it takes direction. It takes direction of turning your attention off of a skin cell, into your center genetic message. Into the examination of the self within, of what you really are. If you look to the exterior of your world and what your skin cell is, you are lost there. You have to turn within and find your genetic message and be with it, and allow yourself to be concentrated on it until you gradually discover what it is. Those are the little steps forward. Once you discover each little particle, you discover more and more and more and more of what you really are. And then when the evening comes, and you are facing the west, and your concentration is on Isis; as you set and go to sleep, and the sun goes down of this lifetime of the skin cell, the veil is taken away, and you rise the next morning, something beyond the skin cell. But if you don't bother doing that, which is okay also, and you turn all of your attention on the skin cell and the world around you, then you rise the next morning as a skin cell.

Pretty simple. Because that is where your attention is, is on the skin cell. And you never change from what you are because you make no self transmutation. Is that what we were talking about last night, Chris?

Chris: Yes, that is it. In the consciousness of the whole of what you are, you start serving the needs of the whole.

Corky: You are in relativity. You have to take care of the skin cell. You cannot abandon it because then it is going to slough off and you are going to start right over where you left off. This is back to the question on suicide. And so you need to maintain it temporarily to allow yourself to turn within and identify who you are and what you are. You are the whole. It is so simple! Everybody wants to make it complicated and they want to avoid the real issue. Because they are trying to avoid death. And you've got to face death and have a communion with death, or the veil of Isis, before you can understand who you are.

Chris: When the "me" changes then right? So then when you are taking care of me, then you are taking care of something much larger than what you were.

Corky: You are the whole. You are everything. You are all the other cells at the same time, because they are you. And everybody here has been given the gift to find it. It is the second initiation. It's that type of meditation that will take you to that resonation because that genetic message is within that resonation. It is there. And people that get close to it get real nervous and find reasons and excuses why not to do it because they don't want to discover it, which is okay too. There are very few evolved souls that are ready to face it, because they are so caught up in losing the skin cell. Because if you face it you lose the skin cell. You lose who you are, and you transmutate and become something else. And they are hanging on to what they were. Hanging on for life. Because that's where they believe life is. And so it is a real balancing thing between life and death. Between suicide and non suicide. It, the value of life, isn't very valuable in the East compared to the value of it in the West. It is a very gentle position to be in. We spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep people alive for a week. Why don't we spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in guiding them to their next destination?

Janet: Because the people doing that are holding on to their skin cell?

Ron: They don't know that there is anything. All they can envision is the movie they are in.

Corky: And they don't know there is a continuum. And that is the problem. That's why there is so much paranoia, and so much avoidance of that continual existence.

Al: I could hear the argument, "Well who is the authority on that?"

Corky: That's what we are going to get to next weekend, it is called probability. The probability that there is a continuum, versus not a continuum. We have to look at the probabilities, and what we have to do is look in nature to see if there is life after death in nature. It's called the probability whether there is a continuum. So let's raise the issue of the probability within nature, if nature has a probability that says there is a continuum, and there is not a ceasing of existence, okay, then there could be a certain percentage of probability that what we're talking about could be real. Or not.

So let's examine the probability of it, if it's a long shot or not. If the horse is only running at 50 seconds around the lap, and it takes 23 seconds to make it happen, there is no good probability. But if the horse is running 23 seconds around the lap, and the knife comes down at 24 seconds, there is a 1 second probability that he is going to make it underneath the knife.

Chris: I'm really curious about what examples you are going to use.

Corky: Pretty neat huh?! But you gotta show up to find out!